MLP Season 2 Premier Draft Grades

The best time of the year is the MLP draft. There is so much more buzz around MLP these days with fans doing all sorts of different mock drafts and having many discussions prior to the draft. It was good that the Dink did a live stream draft reaction. They had over 1,000 people throughout the 2nd half of the Premier draft watching their stream, which is a pretty decent number. Drafts are the best and there is still so much room for MLP to grow to improve all of their draft coverage. Drafts have the potential to create a ton of content and organic discussion amongst fans. It’s good to see that the interest is increasing already but also kind of sad to potentially know we might only have one more true draft left in MLP. America loves its sports drafts. Please live stream that one for 2024, MLP. The fans need it.

One thing we should make clear about our draft grades is that they don’t necessarily equate to how good a team is. The grades are how well a team did relative to their draft position and who was available at each slot. That will often times equate to how well we think a team will do, but we’ll try to clarify that where there might be a discrepancy. You can see in the chart above we have where each player was picked as well as their gender selection. Below, we include where they went overall in the draft 

On the whole, we don’t really see clear winners like we did last season. There’s a lot of teams that are flawed but have the ability to be high end. We thought there were opportunities out there for teams to take the bull by the horn in this Premier draft, but they went a different direction. Of course, we could always be wrong as we have many times before. Our first instinct is that there will be more parity in season 2 for Premier.

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Chicago Slice – Ben Johns (#1), Jessie Irvine (#24), Lacy Schneemann (#25), Erik Lange (#48)

This one was surprising. The question we have is whether Ben Johns wanted Lacy Schneemann. Jessie Irvine made sense at #24 but we were surprised not to see Jade Kawamoto or Allyce Jones go off the board with #25. Schneemann is more of a left-side player that can move well to help cover some court for Irvine, but we wonder if this was a Ben pick or a Chicago Slice pick. Chicago has a very involved ownership group. Would they override Ben Johns?

We are not in favor of letting players dictate drafts too much but, at this point, you basically have to trust Ben to draft the best team. If we could confirm Ben picked Schneemann, this draft grade is potentially half or a full letter grade higher because we blindly trust Ben at this point. Erik Lange should fit well with Ben, but the mixed, although improving, continues to be a question for Lange. This is potentially the worst singles team in the draft. It sure isn’t the Pioneers but they should still be competitive.

Grade: C+ 

Utah Black Diamonds – Anna Leigh Waters (#2), Irina Tereschenko (#23), Thomas Wilson (#26), AJ Koller (#47)

It is unclear what Utah is doing here contrary to Connor Pardoe self-proclaiming that his team “crushed those picks”. We are going to talk down another Irina Tereschenko selection as there was better value to be had here, particularly Jade Kawamoto. We disagree internally on Wilson’s draft position. The downside of Wilson is his uncertain health situation and not being sure what he is as a lead dog on a team. We just don’t have enough information on his health, but maybe teams have more details on that.

AJ Koller is good value and the chemistry pairing with Wilson works well in theory. But there’s a reason AJ dropped to this spot after being a 2nd rounder in season 1. It is amazing how far Koller has fallen – notably he is missing the Saturday of the first event due to a family wedding. This team should also be in the mix with Anna Leigh Waters, but we don’t think either of the top 2 teams did as well in the draft.

Grade: C+

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D.C. Pickleball Team – Riley Newman (#3), Jackie Kawamoto (#22), Jade Kawamoto (#27), Christian Alshon (#44)

D.C. are the biggest winners of the draft today. Starting in the #5 slot, they were able to trade their #5 and #20 picks to Orlando for the #3 and #22 picks. A baffling trade by Orlando to move off the #3 pick when it’s clear the top 3 picks are the best slots to draft for Premier. D.C. is gifted Riley Newman at the #3 slot and we have both come around to him being the #2 guy in this draft. It should be mentioned we do have questions as to whether Riley Newman is an MLP player and how motivated he currently is in this MLP format. Having Jackie Kawamoto slip to them in the 2nd round is great value.

How do Jackie and Jade keep ending up together? They are somewhat limited as a women’s team but they are so solid together so nothing will come free for opponents. It’s a super solid foundation for a team. Christian Alshon is a frisky choice. We have internal disagreement on Alshon but the talent is there. How he fits in men’s with Riley Newman as a beta male will be fascinating. There are just questions that linger on the development of the Tweener King’s doubles game.

Grade: B+ 

Brooklyn Aces – Catherine Parenteau (#4), Andrea Koop (#21), Hayden Patriquin (#28), Tyler Loong (#45)

Are we really going to question another Catherine Parenteau situation? Yes. Yes, we are. Internally, we have some disagreement over whether Catherine was proper value at this point in the draft. One of us thinks it is fine, the other not so much. We also disagree on Koop’s value as this spot could be too high for her. What we do agree on is Hayden Patriquin at #28 is too high. He played mixed with ALW and men’s with James Ignatowich in season 1, both 1st round selections for season 2. The public loves Hayden Patriquin, but does that possibly come from wanting to root for a swaggy, small kid who is not scared of the moment? Tyler Loong continues to be good value in MLP drafts and slots in well for this team as a 4th round pick. This team looks fine, but nothing special. Will Parenteau prove us wrong again? 

Grade: B- 

Orlando Squeeze – Anna Bright (#5), Andrei Daescu (#20), Zane Navratil (#34), Rachel Rohrabacher (#39)

Orlando was shaking and moving this draft. They confoundingly traded their #3 and #22 picks with D.C. for their #5 and #20 picks. Then they traded their #27 and #46 picks with Atlanta for #34 and #39. It doesn’t make sense to us to move away from the #3 pick. It is such an advantage as the Premier division currently sits. We like what Orlando did with each of their picks though. Anna Bright is debatably high at #5 as well, but pairing her with Andrei Daescu at that #20 slot is a solid match. We like what Orlando did with their men as Zane is now possibly undervalued at this 3rd round slot.

Rachel Rohrabacher is a huge wild card. We love the talent and were quite high on her as a possible Challenger first round pick. Anna Bright must feel strongly about Rohrabacher as we understand Rohrabacher can’t play the right yet. Rachel’s upside could be as high as anyone in this draft, including Hurricane Tyra Black. This team salvaged a weird move by making some good value picks and we are okay going for broke on a final selection with someone we had as a top 10 overall Challenger player. It might have been a higher draft grade had they not started in the #3 slot. A lot will hinge on Rohrabacher’s development.

Grade: B

Columbus PC – JW Johnson (#6), Meghan Dizon (#19), Maggie Brascia (#30), Collin Johns (#43)

They were dubbed the “all-personality” team facetiously by Jimmy Miller on the Dink’s live draft reaction. We are not huge energy guys for draft strategy, but this team should be better with the value JW provided at #6. The Dizon pick is solid enough in that spot but Maggie Brascia and Collin Johns were not the right picks in those slots for us, especially Collin when Loong and Koller were out there in round 4. This team is built like the season 1 Las Vegas Night Owls. Everyone fits in well theoretically but there’s not a ton of juice. Collin with JW Johnson in men’s is supposed to be good, but can Collin play men’s with someone other than Ben Johns? Can Collin play a good enough mixed with a #2 female? One of JW’s “amigos”, Gabe Tardio, was also sitting there and now drops to Challenger despite his strong performance the past 3 months.

Grade: C

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AZ Drive – Julian Arnold (#7), Vivienne David (#18), Dekel Bar (#31), Vivian Glozman (#42)

Poor Vivienne and Dekel. They both seem to be very good people, but people love teaming them together. Their past personal stuff must no longer be a thing if people keep taking them and they likely won’t have to play mixed together on this team, but Vivienne as a #1 female hasn’t worked. People like this team from what we have seen but there is a lot that has to go right. While we wonder if Julian Arnold has gone from undervalued to overvalued as an “MLP Player”, Dekel Bar is good value in the third round of this draft as he finally doesn’t have to be a #1. On the other hand, can Dekel and Julian fit together as a men’s team? Dekel as an idea of a top player has been much better than Dekel actually being a top player in all 3 events over the past year and a half.

The other big question is where Glozman is at in her development. Braverman was here to be a steady left-sider so this is a bet on talent. We do love the talent of Glozman and think she’s going to be a really good player. However, she will see a lot of balls on the left side of the court and has admitted to still being lost on the right in mixed. She will probably be uncomfortable with either Arnold or Bar in mixed, who both love to take a ton of court. We have serious questions but, if Glozman hits, this could be a scary team.

Grade: B- 

Texas Ranchers – Dylan Frazier (#8), Jorja Johnson (#17), Lauren Stratman (#32), Travis Rettenmaier (#41)

This is another team that we felt got solid value in round 1 as Dylan Frazier could have gone higher in this draft. The fit is natural with Jorja Johnson as Frazier and the Johnson family are so close, but this team has potential holes. Johnson’s talent is there, but the results haven’t been consistent in 2023, especially in women’s doubles. We think Stratman is an end of draft Premier female, but there were others like Allyce Jones that would have made for a better selection. Travis Rettenmaier is fine with this 4th round pick, but we always wonder about the chemistry stuff with Travis Nothing is offensive about the team, and we aren’t saying things can’t go right. However, Rettenmaier hasn’t yet shown he can win consistently in men’s at the highest level. Jorja and Stratman make for a volatile women’s team. The one certainty this team should provide is Travis and Jorja Travis as a 1(a) team in mixed with Frazier once again tasked to try to get it done with his team’s #2 female. This is another team where we could see a wide range of results. 

Grade: B- 

Dallas PC – James Ignatowich (#9), Callie Smith (#16), Allyce Jones (#33), Jay Devilliers (#40)

It is not clear to us if this is a winning team but this team did well considering its draft slot. James Ignatowich or Federico Staksrud was the pick for us at #9. Although Callie Smith went a little higher than where we would have her, she profiles as a #1 female. There were likely better options than Callie here. What makes this draft good is that Jones and Devilliers are both values in our eyes in the 3rd and 4th round. We have talked about Allyce in our other team’s grades, but it feels like her draft stock has fallen for no reason other than she isn’t in the spotlight following the split with Lea Jansen. Jay falling to the 4th round feels like too far. Devilliers brings it in all 3 events and you know you’re getting a guy that will compete as hard as anyone out there. As a #2 guy in this spot, he can basically be a pseudo #1 in the 40th selection. Devilliers could be the Thomas Wilson of the season 2 draft. Again, our grade on this team is not necessarily indicative of how good they will be overall, but we think they did very well with their draft slot.

Grade: A-

Atlanta Bouncers – Parris Todd (#10), Simone Jardim (#15), Pablo Tellez (#27), Hunter Johnson (#46)

Zane Navratil questioned half-jokingly whether this team is the Clean Cause of season 2. This APP all-star team does seem to be questionable. Parris went too high at #10 for both of us. Simone probably went around where she should at #15, maybe slightly high. The question, once again, is what does this team get you? Parris and Simone have been undefeated at APP events, but they have been pushed to close matches by players who did not get drafted Premier.

They swapped their 3rd and 4th round picks with Orlando to take Tellez and Hunter Johnson. Tellez is the one sort of “value” slot we feel that Atlanta got. Otherwise, it seems like Hunter Johnson was picked because of how close he is with Parris and Simone. As a borderline Premier player, Hunter will probably played mixed with Parris, but they haven’t been dominant on the APP. If your 1st and 4th round picks can’t dominate on the APP, it is fair to question how it will go at MLP. Tellez and Simone should form a competitive mixed team. Once again, we just aren’t sure what this roster gets you. Great chemistry? With a Premier spot on the line for 2024, Atlanta may have wanted to worry more about pickleball and less about marketing for this draft.

Grade: C+  

Bay Area Breakers – Lea Jansen (#11), Etta Wright (#14), Rafa Hewett (#35), Connor Garnett (#38)

This is one of the three teams that went female/female to start off this draft, Jansen/Wright should be a scary women’s team, but some of the value you get with one of Jansen or Etta goes away a bit with them having to play the right. Of course, Rithcie Tuazon’s 2nd team takes Rafa Hewett with its 3rd round slot.. Lea and Rafa are familiar with each other from their PNW days, and you have good right/left side pairings with the guys. It was always going to be a question whether you could fit Garnett in with a later pick on the left side. Honestly, we don’t know what a lot of these teams get you and the guys are what we are most concerned with. Apparently, we just question all the MLP players as Rafa is a question mark at this slot in the draft. He’s becoming more properly valued in MLP, but this felt slightly early. If Garnet keeps improving big time, this team may have something. We can’t help ourselves. Doubting Ritchie Tuazon again. We clearly do not think alike! 

Grade: C

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Miami PC – Federico Staksrud (#12), Tyson McGuffin (#13), Hurricane Tyra Black (#36), Mary Brascia (#37)

Interesting to see Miami do the exact same thing as Frisco in season 1. Will this be déjà vu? We like the Staksrud/McGuffin pairing better than Zane/Matt Wright on paper. Both men are strong in all 3 events and they probably both play an underrated mixed but we don’t like the male-male strategy when there was an expectation of a big run on women from the 2nd round to the early third round.

Mary Brascia is our biggest dislike of the draft. We think she is borderline Premier at best, and likely should have gone down to Challenger. Braverman and Susannah Barr were both here as proven players if the team wanted more proven talent with some upside. Still, Mary B finds herself in a good situation though, where we presume she will play mixed with Federico – they have strong results together. How good is Hurricane? Is the hype real? We are lower than consensus on Tyra even though we really like the talent she possesses. You’re looking for a lot of things to go right here to be a contender. It’s not impossible, but let’s see.

Grade: C+

Notable Undrafted Women

Jillian Braverman – Clearly, people hate Braverman even more than we thought. Personality stuff aside, we thought she was too good to stay in Challenger. Not only did she stay in Challenger, she went 5th overall there. At a certain point, can’t players tolerate whatever issues they have with her for 3 events? 

Susannah Barr – It’s not shocking Barr didn’t go to Premier. However, we had her in our top 24 women for season 1, and  we had her in there again for season 2. You need a team around her that can cover for her sub-par, but now passable, singles game. Barr needed the right situation to get drafted and those were available, but it didn’t happen for whatever reason.  

Yana Grechkina – People are really low on Yana and we wonder if that’s because she played on such a bad Frisco team. She has stretches of inconsistent play but she has some very strong PPA results this year. 

Notable Undrafted Men

Gabe Tardio – Surprised he dropped after such a good San Clemente MLP event and two PPA semi-finals recently. He’s a Premier player who happens to find himself in Challenger. A good 6 month stretch will put him back in the Premier conversation. 

Rob Nunnery – A lot of people thought Nunnery should be Premier, including Nunnery himself, as he should.  Commendably, he has been public with his health battles this year and, without any pick-ups in Challenger, that would be scary to lose him and have to take a sub. When you’re a borderline guy to start with, that is enough to keep you out of Premier. Who knows though, maybe it is just politics

Stefan Auvergne – He seems to profile as a Quad-A guy, which is baseball speak meaning too good for the minors but not good enough for the majors. He doesn’t seem ready for Premier but he may be able to dominate Challenger. 

DJ Young – He was a near lock to go down to Challenger. If he wants to be a Premier player, he’s going to have to show in these next 6 months that he’s not just a talented guy that will never put it together. We’re still waiting. 

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45 thoughts on “MLP Season 2 Premier Draft Grades

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  • July 12, 2023 at 11:18 pm
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    These draft review grades were done as an instant reaction. I will give an overall grade for the team draft as a whole, and for each player selected in their position, considering who else was available. Like NML, it’s about how well I think the team was drafted, not necessarily how they will perform.

    Atlanta Bouncers (Pals Party): C+
    Parris Todd: B
    Simone Jardim: A-
    Pablo Tellez: B-
    Hunter Johnson: D

    Arizona Drive (Vivkel): B-
    Julian Arnold: B+
    Vivienne David: C+
    Dekel Bar: B+
    Vivian Glozman: B-

    Bay Area Breakers (Round up the Ls): C+
    Lea Jansen: A-
    Etta Wright: A
    Rafa Hewett: C-
    Connor Garnett: B

    Brooklyn Aces (Little H): B+
    Catherine Parenteau: A
    Andrea Koop: A-
    Hayden Patriquin: C+
    Tyler Loong: B+

    Chicago Slice (Ben is the Whole Pie): A-
    Ben Johns: S
    Jessie Irvine: A- (limited mobility but the best option for sure)
    Lacy Schneeman: B
    Erik Lange: B

    Columbus Pickleball Club (The Screamers): B+
    JW Johnson: A
    Megan Dizon: A-
    Maggie Brascia: A- (Simply too good of results to ignore)
    Collin Johns: C+

    D.C Pickleball Team (Riley’s New Leaf): A-
    Riley Newman: A
    Jackie Kawamoto: A
    Jade Kawamoto: A-
    Christian Alshon: B

    Dallas Pickleball Club (French Toast): A-
    James Ignatowich: A-
    Callie Smith: B+
    Allyce Jones: A-
    Jay Devilliers: A (How are Dallas this lucky?)

    Miami Pickleball Club (Frisky Like Frisco): C+
    Federico Staksrud: B-
    Tyson Mcguffin: B- (Should’ve taken Female)
    Tyra Black: B
    Mary Brascia: C-

    Orlando Squeeze (Pressing Their Luck): B-
    Anna Bright: A-
    Andrei Daescu: A-
    Zane Navratil: B+
    Rahel Rohrbacher: ?

    Texas Ranchers (The B Team): B
    Dylan Frazier: B+
    Jorja Johnson: B+
    Lauren Stratman: B-
    Travis Rettenmaier: B

    Utah Black Diamonds (Easy Draft): A-
    Anna Leigh Waters: A
    Thomas Wilson: A- (if completely healthy)
    Irina Tereschenko: A- (good 3rd round value)
    AJ Koller: A

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    • July 13, 2023 at 4:36 am
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      Joseph, I like your method of grading each individual pick!

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    • July 13, 2023 at 12:44 pm
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      You are more generous than us with the grades that’s for sure. And we may have been overly critical but this stuff is all eye of the beholder. Half of it or more will be wrong most likely. Can’t wait to see and thanks for sharing your thoughts

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  • July 13, 2023 at 12:37 am
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    Thank you for posting. It is very interesting, no team really stands out as a winner. I would have liked Collin Shick in Premier just as a fun wild card. Vivian Glozman hasn’t been playing for a year and is in Premier but believe she belongs there too. It will be a lot of fun no matter what. 🙂

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    • July 13, 2023 at 12:44 pm
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      Collin’s results today might not show Premier Hahaa

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  • July 13, 2023 at 2:06 am
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    If I had the first pick I would just draft Ben Johns and 3 high end singles players. Ben can nearly always win his mixed match and his men’s doubles match with any premier level partners. If he can almost always give you two wins your teams job becomes just winning dreambreakers. Taking non singles players like Jessie Irvine and Erik Lange has to be a complete blunder for a team that is likely to see quite a few 2-2 splits go to dreambreaker

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    • July 13, 2023 at 7:17 am
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      Agree. That’s why I would’ve gone with Jade in the 3rd and Tardio in the 4th – still can’t believe Tardio not drafted. Jade and Tardio played well together in San Clemente too.

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    • July 13, 2023 at 7:51 am
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      The problem with the “let’s win dreambreakers” approach is that nobody knows how to do it.

      Last season, the 5s had the Murderers Row of dreambreaker teams — both the #1 and #2 women in singles, and Iggy on the mens side. Seattle had the low-energy, low-singles skill (except Ben) team.

      The 4 point format thus far has proven to be too much of a randomizer. Anyone can hit a return long, or into the net. These are all pro players, which one is superior comes out over a match, over time, not over 4 measly points.

      I had the same reaction to drafting Lange and you did, and given the increase in parity this season, I think there will be more dreambreakers than last season, but I also think Ben knows more about who to draft than all of us put together, and until he doesn’t win, he gets the benefit of the doubt.

      I sure do think he has his hands full this season, no question.

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      • July 13, 2023 at 12:54 pm
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        The 5’s totally screwed up their order on Dreambreakers but totally agree on the randomness. Erik also seems to benefit from being just an all around great guy and people like him on their team

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    • July 13, 2023 at 12:45 pm
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      Are the Dreambreakers certain enough with top singles players? We don’t think so, but this is a bad Dreambreaker team. Jessie is akin to Sarah Ansboury in Challenger

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      • July 13, 2023 at 12:49 pm
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        I think you can count on ben to get two wins 90% of the time with any premier level partners, and the other players can go 1-1 a fair amount of the time avoiding dreambreakers, which is about the same result as the team they’ve assembled here. The only difference is with the team with singles players you will get to win 90% of the dreambreakers instead of the 30% this team will win

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        • July 13, 2023 at 3:40 pm
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          We’ll see if he can do 90% this time around as well

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  • July 13, 2023 at 4:19 am
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    Glad to see some “contrary” opinions posted and some realistic grades. I haven’t completely watched Dylan on The Drop review but he seemed to be frank on his opinion too. I thought The Dink had a good idea but didn’t execute it very well in their live commentary.

    Do you have the wrong graphic – BLQK?

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    • July 13, 2023 at 12:51 pm
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      We did have the wrong graphic thanks! And we’ll have to listen to the Drop

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  • July 13, 2023 at 4:29 am
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    As predicted, teams did a much better job drafting this time around. This is what parity looks like – there’s no clear winner because most teams drafted decently.

    Ben and Jessie beat Riley and ALW in Vegas, so that looks like a great pairing, and Jessie has been practicing with Lacy in LA, so perhaps that is the explanation for Lacy as a second pick.

    Dallas looks like they’ll be a very tough team.
    Other teams have more questions, but if things go well, other teams could also be tough. For example, if AJ becomes the AJ he used to be, Utah will also be a very tough team. The Aces have potential, and maybe DC, too.

    It’s going to be very interesting to watch!

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    • July 13, 2023 at 12:52 pm
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      We actually think there were opportunities to come out ahead. Challenger draft was better. Will be very interesting nonetheless

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  • July 13, 2023 at 5:01 am
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    Regarding Thomas Wilson’s health. In lay terms he had extra electrical tracts in his heart that occasionally took over and paced his heart irregularly and fast. This can be though of as an electrical circuit that should be controlled by one wire but instead has other wires connected that intermittently take over. He had a procedure that cauterized the offending tracts (in other words these extra electrical wires that took over were cut in lay terms again) by an electrophysiology cardiologist. This is a very common procedure and essentially should rectify his problem which is great for him. As such he was a steal. Also think that partnering with AJ is a no brainer given their family ties. Anyway. Great post once again. BTW I’m a retired medical professional if that matters. ☺️

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    • July 13, 2023 at 7:24 am
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      Nice comment. I didn’t realize Koller/Wilson were cousins and used to play doubles together. That’s good info!

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    • July 13, 2023 at 12:53 pm
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      Thanks for the medical analysis! We needed that. He’s proper value then probably

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  • July 13, 2023 at 8:29 am
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    Good stuff as always guys. One minor thing I would have liked to see is an indication of where these teams are in the standings heading into Season 2. Zane mentioned it a couple times on the pod, but it’s interesting to see how each team’s draft strategy is affected by where they stand, and we’d expect to see lower end teams making higher volatility moves (i.e. his Squeeze taking Rohrabacher).

    Other than that, I’m not sure if it was some kind of anchoring effect, but in Season 1, it seemed like the teams that were Challenger were more frequently making picks and moves that seemed weird and borderline uninformed. To me it felt like that pattern has continued even now as those teams are Premiere.

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    • July 13, 2023 at 11:58 am
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      We will do that next time we put stuff together. Maybe not Challenger grades but at some point. Honestly, we wonder if most of these newer ownership groups in Premier previously Challenger are still learning while most of the now Challenger teams have been in the pro pb world longer

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      • July 13, 2023 at 12:24 pm
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        That is what I’m thinking as well

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  • July 13, 2023 at 9:01 am
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    anything specific in Jansen Jones break up?

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    • July 13, 2023 at 10:21 am
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      From podcasts, Jansen says she told Jones it’d be for a limited trial period so not really a break-up, just a natural end of trial period. Hearsay: Jones seems to claim she was never told that the partnership had ended.

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      • July 13, 2023 at 12:58 pm
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        Both sides appear to have different stories on this

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    • July 13, 2023 at 12:55 pm
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      One party says it was only ever supposed to be 6 months. The other party sounds like she says it was supposed to be full year together

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  • July 13, 2023 at 9:02 am
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    “Vivienne and Dekel. They both seem to be very good people, but people love teaming them together. Their past personal stuff must no longer be a thing…” What was missed here? Is this on our issues or off court issues.

    I find it odd that Rafa and Collin Johns are in Premier. Collin is solid right for mens only. I think Nunnery or Tardio should have been picked over these guys.

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    • July 13, 2023 at 12:56 pm
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      There was some inter personal family/friend stuff with them but seems to be resolved. Rafa is a Premier guy probably but we’ll see how he does in this environment. They both could have been picked ahead

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  • July 13, 2023 at 9:28 am
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    Re: Orlando trading slot 3 for 5 — According to Anna B on the Drop, Orlando was going to take her at 3. Trading slots got them a better pick for that alpha male in round 2.

    As for draft grades and value for pick, I would argue that 4th round picks should be weighted more heavily towards singles, especially for men. Given the parity, it’s difficult to estimate the expected difference in doubles between, say, Erik Lange and Christian Alshon in that 2nd male role. Estimating that difference in singles is much easier. Alshon and Lange are an extreme example here. Alshon can play first in singles (meaning at least 12 points in a dreambreaker) and on average could be expected to win ~8 of those points. [And he frees Riley up to play 2nd in dreambreakers where Riley probably also has a better than average expectation. I wouldn’t be surprised if that was the deciding factor in taking Alshon over Koller]. Erik, on the other hand, is going to play second [or third? behind Schneeman??] and has substantially lower expected points. [Or maybe Ben’s plan is to turn Erik into a singles stud?]

    Furthermore, singles is where individual talent (and performance under pressure — shout out Rafa and Lacy) matters most and where big improvements in performance are less likely. (People don’t talk about singles upside…). To be clear, I’m not saying that singles matters more. I’m saying that there’s much less uncertainty about whether one choice is providing a significant advantage over another choice. [Looking at 4th round picks, it seems most of the owners/GM’s might agree — AJ and Erik might be the least competitive singles players in that group and, aside from maybe Tardio and Schick, none of the top challenger men would be expected to have an advantage playing singles in premier.]

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    • July 13, 2023 at 12:57 pm
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      We think if it’s close you want to skew singles but not to go singles in favor of a better player. All depends on how you value players too

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  • July 13, 2023 at 10:38 am
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    People seem chagrined about the trade by the Orlando Squeeze. These kind of trades happen All The Time in pro sports. the Chicago Bears traded the 1st pick in the NFL draft a couple months ago. Why do teams do this? In the case of Orlando, it’s obvious they wanted Anna Bright, over CP and JW, and to build a team around Her. And they determined that the player they wanted would be available at #5. By making this trade, they were able to get the player they wanted all along, And move up 2 spots in round 2, acquiring an increased chance to get the player they wanted in Round 2, which turned out to be Andrei. This move tells me that Orland has Professional management, and is using every little advantage they can, to build the exact team they wanted to build.

    I think the loser of the draft is the Atlanta bouncers. They used their first two picks to acquire a female team that is often played Even by two women who are firmly lodged in Challenger MLP. They used their other 2 picks on two male Challenger level players, hoping they can make the leap to Premier. On paper they look to have a difficult road ahead.

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    • July 13, 2023 at 3:38 pm
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      Your point is taken, they liked Anna better and they decided to do something smart with the value. Riley isn’t proven as an MLP player even if we disagree on the value. Orlando’s last season tells us they have no idea what they are doing but we’ll see. Anna is a very prepared person and not sure whether the credit goes to Orlando or her for the rest of the draft. Rohrabacher clearly an Anna pick.

      Loser of the draft is certainly Atlanta.

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  • July 13, 2023 at 11:23 am
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    Hunter got drafted because of doubles skill, single skill, and he’s shtupping Parris.

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  • July 13, 2023 at 12:52 pm
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    judging by the last 2 drafts one could come around to the idea that Ben does not valuing dreambreaker talent as highly as others do. Rather his strategy seems to be to try to get to 3 wins. In this draft, he drafted an experienced right side female. A dynamic left side female. And an experienced right side male. I believe his thinking is that his women’s doubles team is going to be very good. He and Jessie will be very good. And he and eric will be very good. Ben drafts to stay out of dream breakers. Not to be good in them (on paper).

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    • July 13, 2023 at 3:41 pm
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      This is absolutely true we agree and we agree with Ben on the Dreambreakers. He may have put too little value this time, though. We think you can’t have more than 1 sub-par to incompetent singles player for their gender. Ben has an incompetent one in Jessie and a sub-par one in Lange

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        Lacy smoked Tyra today in straight games, I was expecting more from Tyra given how she’s been hyped so highly, and given her strong tennis background + superior athleticism. Maybe a sacrifice strategy is the best bet in a dreambreaker for the Slice.

        So you put Jessie against their best man, and hope to get a point on an error, but probably get skunked 0-4. You then play Ben against the other man, Ben goes 4-0 in many cases. Then the hope: can Lange break even against their best woman? If so, it’s all tied up, and if Lacy can go 3-1 against their worst woman you win by a nose.

        Any better options for the Slice in a dreambreaker?

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        • July 13, 2023 at 11:29 pm
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          Generally, we are anti sacrifice strategy because it puts you too far behind the 8 ball and much harder to do with Lange there as well. Frankly, Tyra’s singles game is not great given her tennis pedigree and it is likely because she naturally came with weird groundstrokes. It is something we discussed in a takeaway a while back

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  • July 13, 2023 at 4:29 pm
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    There is an interesting dynamic with Collin being picked to be JW’s right side partner. On one level, this makes a ton of sense. JW plays a lot like ben and can mimic a lot his tactics in gameplay. Collin can play his right side role with very little modification. In addition, Collin can bring a lot of intelligence and strategy to this team. JW I think can benefit greatly from playing with and thinking about the game alongside Collin. The question for me is how “open” and forthcoming Collin is going to be, knowing that improving JW’s game in areas where he is weaker (strategy and tactics), could mean creating a monster that he will have to face regularly on the PPA tour.

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    • July 13, 2023 at 11:30 pm
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      Very good questions. Maybe he won’t be at all. Collin doesn’t probably care about MLP either

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